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on fri, president obama said he still hoped to work out a deal to keep taxes for 98% of americans from going up on the first of january. but both sides aren't talking and congress is in recess until after christmas. republicans aren't holding out any hope for a deal. >> i would hope that we would have one last attempt here to do what everyone knows needs to be done, which is a larger plan that really does stabilize the debt and get us moving in the right direction. >> if we get down to the end of this year and the oil only choice we have is to save taxes going up on the middle class, then i would support that. but i wish we had a comprehensive bill that dealt with spending and entitlement altogether. >> i believe the president senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> some finger pointing. other republicans are now looking past new year's day to the next battleground. >> i will raise the debt ceiling only if we save medicare and social security and prevent this country from becoming greece. no more borrowing without addressing why we're in debt to begin with. that's where the rea
on fri, president obama said he still hoped to work out a deal to keep taxes for 98% of americans from going up on the first of january. but both sides aren't talking and congress is in recess until after christmas. republicans aren't holding out any hope for a deal. >> i would hope that we would have one last attempt here to do what everyone knows needs to be done, which is a larger plan that really does stabilize the debt and get us moving in the right direction. >> if we get down...
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get this basic deal done that he's calling for. richard, one of the things that he said is that this is not how the american people do business. he said ordinary folks do their jobs. they need deadlines. and the fact that the lawmakers can't do it is boggling to many of them. so the president really trying to ramp up public pressure. this is something that we have seen him do in the past. a tactic that he has taken in the past to really try to get the public on his side to put the pressure on house republicans. >> kristen, thank you for all of your work tonight. >> joined now by joy reed and clarence page. let's just take a listen to what kristen was talking about. let's roll the tape. >> the president seemed to be much more comfortable today saying enough is enough. >> it did. he sounded like a man who knows he holds if not all the cards, a lot of them. he has the advantage here, the polls indicate, as with bill clinton and this showdown with newt gingrich. the public tends to blame republicans when this happens. especially now at
get this basic deal done that he's calling for. richard, one of the things that he said is that this is not how the american people do business. he said ordinary folks do their jobs. they need deadlines. and the fact that the lawmakers can't do it is boggling to many of them. so the president really trying to ramp up public pressure. this is something that we have seen him do in the past. a tactic that he has taken in the past to really try to get the public on his side to put the pressure on...
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on obama care. there's no way these guys are going to come to a deal, and the reason is this. the president has got the upper hand, and his most important partner is the weakest person in this, which is john boehner. john boehner is on the verge of losing credibility with his caucus. he can't take a deal to his caucus that will pass without the help of nancy pelosi, which will pull the entire deal to the left. so what they have to do is they have to go over the cliff. we're just talking about politics, we're not talking about finances here. they have to go over the cliff. that strengthens boehner's hands because now everybody is paying a hell of a lot more taxes and people are blaming the republicans, and now boehner can go to the caucus and maybe get 200 and a few votes and then with nancy pelosi pick off a few democrats and make some kind of deal. having said that, the best thing for the country is never to come to a deal because ed rendell is right. as a former governor, we don't operate with big
on obama care. there's no way these guys are going to come to a deal, and the reason is this. the president has got the upper hand, and his most important partner is the weakest person in this, which is john boehner. john boehner is on the verge of losing credibility with his caucus. he can't take a deal to his caucus that will pass without the help of nancy pelosi, which will pull the entire deal to the left. so what they have to do is they have to go over the cliff. we're just talking about...
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do we expect something like that, obama, the deal maker, obama the praying mattist, to use democrats in the congress in that way, or not? >> i don't see their incentives as being that much different. i do think that president obama, the leader of the democratic party, really has the leverage. i don't -- i expect that if there is a deal, that democrats don't like, you'll hear grumbling from the democrats, but i would be very surprised if you hear outright revolt. what democrats in congress want is more money. that's what president obama is facing. a full second term of under very constrained circumstances. he wants more rev new. i think he also wants, as much as he feels like he has that sword over republicans, the fact is if the economy goes into recession, that is going to affect the prospects for a successful second term for him and n a profound way. >> congressman cummings, if i still have you, i'm interested in your take on this. i think some friction between even a democratic controlled white house and a democratic controlled house or a democratic controlled congress, there is s
do we expect something like that, obama, the deal maker, obama the praying mattist, to use democrats in the congress in that way, or not? >> i don't see their incentives as being that much different. i do think that president obama, the leader of the democratic party, really has the leverage. i don't -- i expect that if there is a deal, that democrats don't like, you'll hear grumbling from the democrats, but i would be very surprised if you hear outright revolt. what democrats in congress...
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now, right now, the most likely deal on the table seems to be that scaled-down proposal president obama suggested last fright. just to recap, extend tax cuts on household income under $250,000, that's 98% of americans. extend unemployment insurance. that's important. and likely extend the alternative minimum tax fix. but is this bared down plan something house republicans can really get behind? "outfront" tonight to answer that question, republican congressman tom mcclintock of california, a member of the house budget committee. mr. congressman, good to see you. could you back that scaled back plan to avoid going over the fiscal cliff? >> as i said all along, republicans don't want taxes to go up on anyone. if we have an impasse on january 1st, they go up on everyone. so at some point, i think that we republicans have got to realize that if we can't save everybody, we need to try to save as many people as possible. that's not advocating a tax increase. if a lifeguard sees ten people drowning off his beach and can only save nine of them, it doesn't mean he's drowned the tenth one. >> you
now, right now, the most likely deal on the table seems to be that scaled-down proposal president obama suggested last fright. just to recap, extend tax cuts on household income under $250,000, that's 98% of americans. extend unemployment insurance. that's important. and likely extend the alternative minimum tax fix. but is this bared down plan something house republicans can really get behind? "outfront" tonight to answer that question, republican congressman tom mcclintock of...
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the house will be back in session on sunday to try to deal with the issue. we haven't had enough time, you know, two years. when is the last time we had a budget? >> harry reid was just -- wasn't he great yesterday talking about mitch mcconnell and the republicans? no budget. >> and more than 14,000 longshoremen could go on strike this weekend because of a contract dispute. a walkout would close cargo ports. some estimates say a strike could cost the economy $1 billion a day. which would add up. it would kind of counteract the 85 billion. but bernanke is doing 2 billion a day, right? >> more. >> 2.5, yeah. so that would take away -- we could easily rachet it up. unless the printing presses overheat at that point. let's check on the markets this morning. the futures were indicated lower based on angst. there it is worse. it was down 40 earlier, not out 62. they were down 150 at one point. came back down to 18. we're somewhere. >> between there. let's check out some of these other boards that maybe we missed in the last hour. europe, europe is even moving on a
the house will be back in session on sunday to try to deal with the issue. we haven't had enough time, you know, two years. when is the last time we had a budget? >> harry reid was just -- wasn't he great yesterday talking about mitch mcconnell and the republicans? no budget. >> and more than 14,000 longshoremen could go on strike this weekend because of a contract dispute. a walkout would close cargo ports. some estimates say a strike could cost the economy $1 billion a day. which...
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obama and congress can reach a new deal by the new year, deep spending cuts will be taking effect. and while the president takes his flight back here to d.c., the first lady and their daughters are staying in hawaii. >> the first couple sat down with our very own barbara walters before their vacation. we pick up their conversation with talk about their family. >> i want to talk a bit about the girls. we've been watching them grow up from little girls to young ladies. malia recently got her first cell phone. do you monitor it and see who she calls or who she texts? >> i give my daughter, i give her a long rope, and there is monitoring, because we have rules. but monitoring may be, you never know when i'm going to walk in your room and i'm going to ask you who are you talking about and are you talking about school work? >> and they're not very good at lying. we joke sometimes about how malia is getting to the age now, boys start calling and sort of -- i always talk about how one of the main things about running again was continuing secret service protection. >> mr. obama, there is a
obama and congress can reach a new deal by the new year, deep spending cuts will be taking effect. and while the president takes his flight back here to d.c., the first lady and their daughters are staying in hawaii. >> the first couple sat down with our very own barbara walters before their vacation. we pick up their conversation with talk about their family. >> i want to talk a bit about the girls. we've been watching them grow up from little girls to young ladies. malia recently...
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we are waiting for a live press conference by president obama as we begin to get details of the deal that may have been done on capitol hill. we will squeeze? a quick commercial break. we'll be bab in two. [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china, impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. >>> this is a live television feed from inside the white house. we are told the president will address the country shortly on the fiscal cliff. as we await what will be presumably a market address, let's start shuffling through where we are in a moment. we kick off with mary thompson on the floor of the new york stock exchange. mary? >> john harwood has been reporting throug
we are waiting for a live press conference by president obama as we begin to get details of the deal that may have been done on capitol hill. we will squeeze? a quick commercial break. we'll be bab in two. [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china, impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual...
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. >> reporter: president obama says he'll cut his vacation short to hammer out a deal with congress. the deadline now a week away. i'm andrew spencer reporting. >>> if congress face to reach the agreement income tax rates will go up on just about everyone on new year's day. unemployment benefits will expire for many as well. you may not feel the pinch right away. already too late for employers to accurately who would income taxes from those january paychecks. the social security payroll taxes are set to increase on january the 1st. you will see an immediate cut in your take-home pay. >>> the senator from idaho is apologizing for being arrested over the weekend. senator michael crepo was charged with driving under the influence. he was pulled over early yesterday froms agoryia, virginia outside of washington. the senator says he is he is deeply sorry and will deal with the consequences. >>> charges could be filed as soon as today against a driver accused of striking several pedestrians in san francisco. one of the victims, a woman from china died from her injuries after thursday night
. >> reporter: president obama says he'll cut his vacation short to hammer out a deal with congress. the deadline now a week away. i'm andrew spencer reporting. >>> if congress face to reach the agreement income tax rates will go up on just about everyone on new year's day. unemployment benefits will expire for many as well. you may not feel the pinch right away. already too late for employers to accurately who would income taxes from those january paychecks. the social security...
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whether it's a big deal or a small deal, president obama will he have something to sign in time? moments ago i spoke with democratic congressman elijah cummings. listen to what he had to say about the standstill. >> there is a sense of urgency. the problem is that we've got a group of tea party folk over in the house who basically has pretty much dictated what mr. boehner can agree to. boehner, who's a good guy who wants to make a deal, he really wants to make a deal, but he can't. >> all right. head to capitol hill. there's mike viqueira standing by for us. you know something else that representative cummings said. i just said you're standing by. it seems like even when they come back to d.c. they're going to be standing by. they don't seem to have much to do in the house right now. >> reporter: that's absolutely right. don't have anything to do in the house. for now they don't have anything to do in the senate, t.j. that's the thing. harry reid, mitch mcconnell, the two democratic and republican leaders respectively in the senate got back from that big white house pow wow yeste
whether it's a big deal or a small deal, president obama will he have something to sign in time? moments ago i spoke with democratic congressman elijah cummings. listen to what he had to say about the standstill. >> there is a sense of urgency. the problem is that we've got a group of tea party folk over in the house who basically has pretty much dictated what mr. boehner can agree to. boehner, who's a good guy who wants to make a deal, he really wants to make a deal, but he can't....
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and president obama will meet with congressional leaders this afternoon in hopes of reaching a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. redskins fever heats up in the d.c. region. local businesses and fans and the team during up for one of the biggest gains in years. "good morning washington" at 5:00 a.m. begins now. >> live and in hd, this is "good morning washington," on your side. >> good morning, washington. it is friday, december 28. 5:00 a.m. now. i am scott thuman. cynne is off today. we begin with jacqui jeras with the weather. everybody wants to know the football forecast. >> no problem. today will be great. sunday will be pretty good. it is tomorrow to worry about if you are trying to travel. snow will be moving in, but it will not be a major storm. 37 degrees this morning in d.c., 34 at dulles, 36 in manassas 30 and in fredericksburg. there is a winter weather advisory issued ahead of the storm in the highlands, northern ireland, west virginia. 4 + inches could be expected especially along the ridgetops. -- winter weather advisory issued ahead of the storm in northern maryland, west
and president obama will meet with congressional leaders this afternoon in hopes of reaching a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. redskins fever heats up in the d.c. region. local businesses and fans and the team during up for one of the biggest gains in years. "good morning washington" at 5:00 a.m. begins now. >> live and in hd, this is "good morning washington," on your side. >> good morning, washington. it is friday, december 28. 5:00 a.m. now. i am scott thuman....
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still looming large as president obama returns to the white house this morning. the president cut short his christmas vacation in hawaii to get back to washington. congress will be in session today, amidst fading hope that a deal could be reached by the new year. no agreement would mean spending cuts and historic tax hikes for virtually every american. >>> officials in newtown have a message for people who want to send gifts to the grief-stricken town. please don't. they say gifts have arrived in such numbers, they overwhelmed the small community's ability to process them. a fund established after the shooting to support newtown has grown to $3.5 million. >>> meanwhile, hundreds of schoolteachers plan to attend firearms training today in salt lake city. the 200 teachers come from districts across utah. they have volunteered for the concealed weapons training. organizers say in past years, only a few dozen teachers attended the training. they're expecting an overflow crowd because of this month's tragedy in newtown, connecticut. >>> west webster volunteer firefigh
still looming large as president obama returns to the white house this morning. the president cut short his christmas vacation in hawaii to get back to washington. congress will be in session today, amidst fading hope that a deal could be reached by the new year. no agreement would mean spending cuts and historic tax hikes for virtually every american. >>> officials in newtown have a message for people who want to send gifts to the grief-stricken town. please don't. they say gifts have...
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if the deal we're hearing about makes it out of the senate, will the house pass it? >> let's ask congressman john yarmuth. i want to ask you point blank. do you think president obama purposely slowed things down today? >> no, i don't think so at all. what i think he was trying to do was probably to try to send a signal to the democratic base that this didn't resolve the crisis that things were still in flux. that the spending portion of this dilemma, so-called sequester, is really critical to democrats. because democrats have compromised, given up an awful lot on spending programs that are important to us. if you do away with the sequester, you see what the alternative is. last week it was plan "b." it added money for defense. slashed money for education and food stamps and nutrition programs and medicaid. that is something that's great concern to democrats. >> what are they giving up on spending? >> what are we giving up on spending? well, actually, there's a $1.2 trillion on the table right now under our democrats who say let it go. let the across the board cuts ta
if the deal we're hearing about makes it out of the senate, will the house pass it? >> let's ask congressman john yarmuth. i want to ask you point blank. do you think president obama purposely slowed things down today? >> no, i don't think so at all. what i think he was trying to do was probably to try to send a signal to the democratic base that this didn't resolve the crisis that things were still in flux. that the spending portion of this dilemma, so-called sequester, is really...
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president obama's says it is not a done deal yet. complete coverage with rich edson on capitol hill. peter barnes of the white house. rich chemistry to you. >> reporter: they are close. they do have a framework. the outstanding issue is what to do about all those automatic spending cuts known as the sequester that are supposed to start tomorrow, $94 billion in 2013 alone. take a look at the framework, basically what they have agreed to. the tax portion exams and, 400,000 for individuals, foreign and $50,000 for families from a tax increase amounts of more than that would go back to the clinton era top rate of 39% also including capitol gains and dividends. they stay where they are for amounts over 40450. they go up to 20%. permanently attaching the alternative minimum tax and sharing million americans avoiding. there is a 1-year extension of long-term and is chief of unemployment insurance benefits. there could be a slight delay in the spending cuts known as a sequester. still working now right now, but this is a letter that senator
president obama's says it is not a done deal yet. complete coverage with rich edson on capitol hill. peter barnes of the white house. rich chemistry to you. >> reporter: they are close. they do have a framework. the outstanding issue is what to do about all those automatic spending cuts known as the sequester that are supposed to start tomorrow, $94 billion in 2013 alone. take a look at the framework, basically what they have agreed to. the tax portion exams and, 400,000 for individuals,...
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president obama says either a deal is reached or you vote on the short-term stop gap measure. if republicans fail to pass it i'm summarizing it's their fault. so the president kind of tossing the ball into the republican's camp, placing blame on them. in your opinion s that presidential leadership? >> the republicans have gone after the president that he has deferred to congress on this is that he was unable to strike a deal between -- with speaker boehner and now it is to reid and mcconnell. on one hand, obama is criticizing the congress but also giving them the responsibility to come up with a deal. this is on his watch. obama does not want this going into next year. he wants to move quickly on immigration and energy and maybe gun control. so, but he has not been able to strike a deal with the speaker and that is -- you know, takes two to tango, both have to compromise. both have failed repeatedly on getting a debt deal both in the summer of 2011 and now. how to it is up to the senate which up until recently has been shoved to the side. can they come to the rescue. >> thank
president obama says either a deal is reached or you vote on the short-term stop gap measure. if republicans fail to pass it i'm summarizing it's their fault. so the president kind of tossing the ball into the republican's camp, placing blame on them. in your opinion s that presidential leadership? >> the republicans have gone after the president that he has deferred to congress on this is that he was unable to strike a deal between -- with speaker boehner and now it is to reid and...
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president obama earlier on today saying it does appear a deal on the fiscal cliff is nearing. it is within sight. obviously a bit of work still to be done here. even mitch mcconnell says we are very, very close. so the markets have moved up on that hope we will get a done deal and avert the fiscal cliff. >>> positioning portfolios for the new year, i can majs is tricky right now. there's a lot of mess going on in d.c. we're going to help. we're going to give you the single best play for 2013. >>> and also next, two congressman, one democrat one republican. they're going to talk to us about the fiscal cliff. are they happy or sad? and can they rise above to get a deal done? "closing bell" will be back after this break. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 when i'm trading, i'm totally focused. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and the streetsmart edge trading platform from charles schwab... tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 gives me tools that help me find opportunities more easily. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i can even access it from the cloud and trade on any computer. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and with sch
president obama earlier on today saying it does appear a deal on the fiscal cliff is nearing. it is within sight. obviously a bit of work still to be done here. even mitch mcconnell says we are very, very close. so the markets have moved up on that hope we will get a done deal and avert the fiscal cliff. >>> positioning portfolios for the new year, i can majs is tricky right now. there's a lot of mess going on in d.c. we're going to help. we're going to give you the single best play...
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but president obama coming back from vacation in hawaii. that's an indication that some kind of deal -- however small -- is definitely coming. i want to point out, and i know you've been negative on this mastercard data on retail sales, and everybody thinks it's going to be a mess for the holiday season. i want to point out that the stocks are not acting that way. that this is a disaster for the season. the s&p retail index hit an historic high on december 3rd. historic high. since then, it has only been down about 3%. these stocks are not acting like there's a disaster. i can give you several reasons why they're not down so far. number one, we are going to see eps growth in the fourth quarter from some of them because of the extra week that there is. number two, we've had much lower cotton costs this year. their overall costs are lower. that's helping their earnings. number three, inventory levels are much lower. and that's going to help their gross margins. number four, we had pretty good gdp numbers in q-3. number five, home prices are i
but president obama coming back from vacation in hawaii. that's an indication that some kind of deal -- however small -- is definitely coming. i want to point out, and i know you've been negative on this mastercard data on retail sales, and everybody thinks it's going to be a mess for the holiday season. i want to point out that the stocks are not acting that way. that this is a disaster for the season. the s&p retail index hit an historic high on december 3rd. historic high. since then, it...
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republicans are sweating then because a few weeks ago they sounded like they could frame president obama as the bad guy. >> president obama is not the bad guy. you could see this love fest at the press conference this afternoon. american people totally understand and are supporting overwhelmingly what the president has proposed. they want tax cuts for the 98%, not for the top 2%. we've been at a standstill with plan "b" which never was a plan "b" to begin with because we're sacrificing the greater good for such a small minority. >> jimmy and susan, i am going to ask you about the president's press conference and whether you thought it was a bad idea. but when angela was talking, susan, you were shaking your head when she said that the american people are behind the president. >> well, i think right now the american people are frustrated with washington, and that's where that's going to come down. yes, the president is better than the worst guy. boehner is the worst guy and the president is better than that, but that's not the standard you want to meet. you want to have a standard of we r
republicans are sweating then because a few weeks ago they sounded like they could frame president obama as the bad guy. >> president obama is not the bad guy. you could see this love fest at the press conference this afternoon. american people totally understand and are supporting overwhelmingly what the president has proposed. they want tax cuts for the 98%, not for the top 2%. we've been at a standstill with plan "b" which never was a plan "b" to begin with because...
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without a deal what happens? >> some kind of deal, the economy continues to grow very slowly. we are doing all this spending to prop up the economy because the fundamentals are right. all of the things the obama administration has done have been anti growth, whether energy policy, trade with china, reregulation of wall street. and now this, taxing all those jobs creators, all those small businesses. i don't know why you would want to invest in this country now. gerri: let me ask you this. the congressional budget office has out its numbers. if the fiscal cliff hits they say u.s. gdp would shrink by half a percentage point and that unemployment will rise to over 9%. do you think they have the rights or are they just too conservative? will it be worse? >> if we actually went over the cliff we would be subtracted from domestic demand over $600 billion. that is about four percentage points in gdp. most economists were forecasting in the first half of next year hardly 2 percent growth. if you subtract 4% to spending from that year and a recession that is much deeper. the cbo tense
without a deal what happens? >> some kind of deal, the economy continues to grow very slowly. we are doing all this spending to prop up the economy because the fundamentals are right. all of the things the obama administration has done have been anti growth, whether energy policy, trade with china, reregulation of wall street. and now this, taxing all those jobs creators, all those small businesses. i don't know why you would want to invest in this country now. gerri: let me ask you this....
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president obama told reporters that he was modestly optimistic that a deal could be reached. he's counting on the sen if we l cliff because john boehner, the speaker of the house of representatives wasn't able to get the republicans to get the republicans to support a plan b. >> here is the rub, may i go? here is the rub. >> please. >> boehner knows how to negotiate and took on bowles plan, simpson bowles, he took on part of their plan, his first proposal. his second proposal was nancy pelosi's proposal she offered in may of this year of doing tax cuts on people of one million dollars and above, that are one million and above. >> and now plan c now. >> now, now proposal-- >> for the republicans to get-- >> no, he was not and that's his failure dealing with his party, but as for negotiating, boehner has put forth many things. it's president obama that needs to take a page out of the play book of clinton to be able to move more to the middle. >> kelly: okay. and core of both of your arguments, here is what we're seeing on capitol hill as well, members of both sides of the aisle
president obama told reporters that he was modestly optimistic that a deal could be reached. he's counting on the sen if we l cliff because john boehner, the speaker of the house of representatives wasn't able to get the republicans to get the republicans to support a plan b. >> here is the rub, may i go? here is the rub. >> please. >> boehner knows how to negotiate and took on bowles plan, simpson bowles, he took on part of their plan, his first proposal. his second proposal...
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drone war at home for deals to build unmanned aircraft for domestic use. the faa says there could be 30,000 uavs in u.s. skies by 2020. the teal group says domestic drones could be worth $89 billion over ten years, as everyone from homeland security to tmz wants permission to use them. >>> let's get some more insight on the defense skprkt how to play it as the fiscal cliff deadline grows closer. howard rubel is with jeffries. great to speak with you. and i guess key to understanding the impact on these individual stocks, as jane had pointed out in her piece, is to understand which programs might be protected, even with budget cuts that the industry is facing. the f-35, for instance, is one that might be protected. walk us through. which ones had the most protected streams of revenue? >> frankly, many of them do at the moment, because the pentagon has been very busy signing production contracts to get under the wire of the sequester. >> so, for instance, the general dynamics deal that was selling to the navy for the submarine, those funds are, in fact, prot
drone war at home for deals to build unmanned aircraft for domestic use. the faa says there could be 30,000 uavs in u.s. skies by 2020. the teal group says domestic drones could be worth $89 billion over ten years, as everyone from homeland security to tmz wants permission to use them. >>> let's get some more insight on the defense skprkt how to play it as the fiscal cliff deadline grows closer. howard rubel is with jeffries. great to speak with you. and i guess key to understanding...
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we're less than 14 hours from toppling over the edge if lawmakers can't hammer out a deal. the senate is returning to session in 60 minutes from now. president obama is modestly optimistic negotiations can prevent the tax hikes and spending cuts from kicking in. >> we don't yet see an agreement and now the pressure is on congress to produce. if they don't, what i have said is that in the senate, we should go ahead and introduce legislation that would make sure middle class taxes stay where they are and there should be an up or down vote. everybody should have a right to vote on that. if republicans don't like it, they can vote no. >> we're following the last-minute drama to avoid anything bad happening here. dana bash is covering the urgent talks in washington. ali velshi gives us the bottom li line. and alison kosik is on wall street watching how worried investors are reacting this hour. dana, we want to begin with you. we are hearing there might have been some progress overnight. >> a lot more optimism being expressed from sources in both parties. mitch mcconnell who the
we're less than 14 hours from toppling over the edge if lawmakers can't hammer out a deal. the senate is returning to session in 60 minutes from now. president obama is modestly optimistic negotiations can prevent the tax hikes and spending cuts from kicking in. >> we don't yet see an agreement and now the pressure is on congress to produce. if they don't, what i have said is that in the senate, we should go ahead and introduce legislation that would make sure middle class taxes stay...
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said he was optimistic that a deal on the fiscal cliff could be reached. that might have been a mistake. ahead, more on the fiscal cliff and the dwindling hope that a deal can be reached. it's all part of our special coverage of the fiscal cliff crisis with me and ali velshi. ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein. ...to help keep rocky's body as strong as a love that never fades... if he ever lets her leave again. iams. keep love strong. constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking yo
said he was optimistic that a deal on the fiscal cliff could be reached. that might have been a mistake. ahead, more on the fiscal cliff and the dwindling hope that a deal can be reached. it's all part of our special coverage of the fiscal cliff crisis with me and ali velshi. ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein....
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so to me, the president actually wants an argument more than a deal. he could have been helpful and instrumental in getting things done every six months to go through a budget crisis with president obama, he could figure out a way to lead and bring people together earlier. they can't call in mitch mcdonnell until the 26th and complain he was there at the last minute. i think there's a lot to be done to improve legislative affairs at the white house and would ultimately help president obama. >> and said about that, but mcconnell is still is late, he could have imposed himself, and not the way he does it. here is the fundamental problem. leaving aside the policy issue which i know is important to you all. if i get down to politics on bumper stickers, you're holding all of this up, including people's tax cuts it defend millionaires, that's all we have to say. >> and the democrats all agree that the bush tax cuts were the-- were good for the economy. that's had an amazing concussion that you're making-- >> and you're making -- let me finish here. the argum
so to me, the president actually wants an argument more than a deal. he could have been helpful and instrumental in getting things done every six months to go through a budget crisis with president obama, he could figure out a way to lead and bring people together earlier. they can't call in mitch mcdonnell until the 26th and complain he was there at the last minute. i think there's a lot to be done to improve legislative affairs at the white house and would ultimately help president obama....
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with the nation teetering on the brink, president obama return to washington to work on a deal. >> the american people have a right to be upset with this congress. >> the finger pointing continues with democratic leaders accusing house speaker john boehner of putting his political ambitions ahead of the country's fiscal help. >> it is obvious what he is doing. he is waiting until january 3 to get reelected as speaker before entering serious negotiations. >> boehner says that senator reid should "talk less and legislate more." >> republicans have spent over backwards. we have stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. >> the standoff continues. >> right now, the house and senate are in the blame game. each says the onus is on each other to cover the fiscal cliff. >> both sides hope for a deal, but hopes are fading. and some observers say the deal is more likely after the new year after the tax cuts expire. >> then they will be cutting taxes instead of voting to raise taxes. it is a small distinction, but an important one for some republicans. >> president obama spoke to congressional lea
with the nation teetering on the brink, president obama return to washington to work on a deal. >> the american people have a right to be upset with this congress. >> the finger pointing continues with democratic leaders accusing house speaker john boehner of putting his political ambitions ahead of the country's fiscal help. >> it is obvious what he is doing. he is waiting until january 3 to get reelected as speaker before entering serious negotiations. >> boehner says...
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modestly optimistic, that is, that a deal can be done. heres the president. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to o for our families and our businesses and for our entire economy. but for immediate action comedy hour is here. it is now. we are now at the point where in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every american paycheck will get considerably smaller. that would be the wrong thing to do. gerri: no kidding. we have been telling you that for weeks. democrats and republicans alike should rename their parties the procrastination party. that is because like a lot of college freshman, ey left their work until the last minute. including the 800 billion-dollar fiscal cliff that we have been talking about. a hundred billion dollars it hasn't happened yet. it's not like the deadline comes as a surprise to anybody at l, the least of all coness. they were the ones who extended the bush taxcuts. originally passed back in 20,122,010 and 2012. for two years now, they have known the issue i
modestly optimistic, that is, that a deal can be done. heres the president. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to o for our families and our businesses and for our entire economy. but for immediate action comedy hour is here. it is now. we are now at the point where in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every american paycheck will get considerably smaller. that would be the wrong thing to do. gerri: no kidding. we have been...
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. >> in an afternoon briefing, president obama said he will not accept the deal that slashes spending without raising taxes, too. >> if they think that is going to be the formula for how we solve this thing, that is not how it is going to work. >> republicans reacted this way. >> i know the president has done heckling congress. i think he lost probably numbers of boats. >> he laughs and jokes and ridiculed republicans. >> both sides still have to sell any deal to their rank and file, and some democrats were not pleased. the senate may or may not vote on this tonight, but the house is adjourning and would vote on this tomorrow at the earliest. so technically, at least, the nation goes over the cliff at midnight. sally kidd, wbal-tv 11 news. >> maryland could lose hundreds of millions of dollars and tens of thousands of jobs if america does go over the fiscal cliff. researchers estimate maryland will lose millions in federal funding next year, money already in the state budget. an october report also estimates 53,000 full and part- time jobs would be lost in 2013. the state would lose a
. >> in an afternoon briefing, president obama said he will not accept the deal that slashes spending without raising taxes, too. >> if they think that is going to be the formula for how we solve this thing, that is not how it is going to work. >> republicans reacted this way. >> i know the president has done heckling congress. i think he lost probably numbers of boats. >> he laughs and jokes and ridiculed republicans. >> both sides still have to sell any...
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. >>> unfortunately, we deal with incompetent. this afternoon president obama whim wil set down with congressional leaders at the white house for a last ditch effort to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. the hope is both sides can agree to a compromise to prevent the economy from sliding back into recession. judging from the rhetoric on capitol hill, there's a long way to go. here's the day on the hill. >> if we go over the cliff we'll be left with the knowledge that could have been prevented with a single vote in the republican-controlled house of representatives. the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the house representatives to get what they want. >> we're coming up against a hard deadline here, and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward jus
. >>> unfortunately, we deal with incompetent. this afternoon president obama whim wil set down with congressional leaders at the white house for a last ditch effort to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. the hope is both sides can agree to a compromise to prevent the economy from sliding back into recession. judging from the rhetoric on capitol hill, there's a long way to go. here's the day on the hill. >> if we go over the cliff we'll be left with the knowledge that could have...
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coming up, are we close to a deal? president obama will speak in about 30 minutes. we'll have it live. also joining us delaware senator chris kuhns, jack kingston and maryland democratic congressman elijah cummings talking about the cliff and the deal, maybe. we're also live at new york's presbyterian hospital with the latest on secretary of state hillary clinton's condition. andrea mitchell reports is next. we can afford to take an extra trip this year. first boston... then san francisco. hotwire checks the competitions' rates every day so they can guarantee their low prices. so our hotels were half price. ♪ h-o-t-w-i-r-e... ♪ hotwire.com
coming up, are we close to a deal? president obama will speak in about 30 minutes. we'll have it live. also joining us delaware senator chris kuhns, jack kingston and maryland democratic congressman elijah cummings talking about the cliff and the deal, maybe. we're also live at new york's presbyterian hospital with the latest on secretary of state hillary clinton's condition. andrea mitchell reports is next. we can afford to take an extra trip this year. first boston... then san francisco....
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. >> if i was worried about a deal struck by president obama and the senate? no. >> democrats incyst it would be exercise in futility that could rattle world markets. >> mercifully, worst congress in history perhaps goes out of existence in two days. if they open this up on the floor and starting to amend, you know, we'll be swearing in the new congress while they are still acting out that drama. >> yet, conservative outrage over the deal is building. especially after the congressional budget office said legislation that was supposed to help cut the deficit will now add $3.6 trillion to the national debt over the next ten years. the architect of the senate deal minority leader mitch mcconnell notes it lacks in tax cut for large portion of the public. rattling it now would likely hand the blame to the republicans. >> i can speak to the entire conference when i say we don't think taxes should be going up on anyone. but we all knew if we did nothing they would be going up on everyone today. we weren't going to let that happen. >> aide to the president incyst he w
. >> if i was worried about a deal struck by president obama and the senate? no. >> democrats incyst it would be exercise in futility that could rattle world markets. >> mercifully, worst congress in history perhaps goes out of existence in two days. if they open this up on the floor and starting to amend, you know, we'll be swearing in the new congress while they are still acting out that drama. >> yet, conservative outrage over the deal is building. especially after...
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president obama says $250,000 -- maybe i think $350,000 is the line, maybe someone else $150,000 -- we can meet somewhere and cut down -- cut the road somewhere in the middle. and save this country from the uncertainty, the uncertainty that plagues us right now. in the olden days, a long time ago, i was a stockbroker. i was an economics major and a stockbroker on wall street. the thing wall street and investors cannot take is uncertainty. if they no taxes are going up, they will be figure things. if they no taxes are going down, they will figure things. if they now taxes are staying the same, they will figure it out. right now it they are frozen -- they do not know. families are also in many ways frozen. they do not know whether they have to budget so that they will have $2,000 less next year. they do not know whether it will be $4,000. they do not now. the uncertainty is the fault of leaders who cannot get together. i think it is critical that we get a deal. i hope in the next couple of hours. to me -- somebody asked me, what is the difference if you get it now or five days from now?
president obama says $250,000 -- maybe i think $350,000 is the line, maybe someone else $150,000 -- we can meet somewhere and cut down -- cut the road somewhere in the middle. and save this country from the uncertainty, the uncertainty that plagues us right now. in the olden days, a long time ago, i was a stockbroker. i was an economics major and a stockbroker on wall street. the thing wall street and investors cannot take is uncertainty. if they no taxes are going up, they will be figure...
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i'm going to deal with obama i can't think of anybody because in america you know we have we have the a leg ocean and once the pacific ocean and the other side of mexico and canada we're so isolated you know it's not like paris where you know within fifteen hundred miles you get twenty three different countries and we're so isolated in america it was obama who took us through and held our hand and in the sandy hook i mean hurricane sandy and in newtown the president actually he actually brought us through that he held her hand and dragged us through and said it's going to be ok. and it was but what about social protests to mean we had the occupy movement ok do you see something like this you know coming back i mean because you kind of you went to alone this year. yeah they have vanished haven't yet which is really interesting in itself i think the point was made in you know in many ways including during the american presidential debate you know is it the forty seven percent or is it the the one percent it was interesting and i think the point was really made but at the end of the day
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sore forced crisis ease i was in a room an off the record meeting with the hill staffers when this deal was sort of being given to them and a very senior guy gainers office said that basically the president is exactly where we want him that was august of two thousand and eleven and here we are now everyone assumed that the debt limit would at least go until february and geitner just before we went on the air sent a letter to congress saying that we're actually going to run out of cash on monday which is probably the real reason why the president came home well i think republicans. at the time boehner saying that thought that president obama was going to win reelection i mean i think that was their whole their whole strategy for the last four years i would think half the people in the studio right now thought the public is going to lose that election and then if romney had won and then the republicans had taken the senate then america would have been reborn and it be a whole new set of issues that we would have been rude to reborn as a because here we are live in this world not the next
sore forced crisis ease i was in a room an off the record meeting with the hill staffers when this deal was sort of being given to them and a very senior guy gainers office said that basically the president is exactly where we want him that was august of two thousand and eleven and here we are now everyone assumed that the debt limit would at least go until february and geitner just before we went on the air sent a letter to congress saying that we're actually going to run out of cash on monday...
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obama leaves office. this is the time to deal with this issue. we've been kicking it down the road ten years. we promised the nation in 2011 under the budget deal with the sequesters we would not let this get away from us. we shouldn't this time. for mr. obama to suggest i've cut a trillion in spending because he saved money on the wars in afghanistan is gimmicks. they a work. >> i have to be honest, it's both sides. it strikes me these lawmakers on either side don't have a real fix to what we're looking at, the national debt, screaming out of control. we're going to exceed that limit on monday night. >> i wouldn't disagree but look at the facts. we did have a republican controlled congress that passed a bill. if reid didn't like the bill, let it go for debate. let his senate vote it down and say no, we're not going to accept these conditions. >> let me ask you this, then. interesting question. president obama gets his own deal, sends it over to the republicans, they have the same dilemma. >> well, they may. but i think you would at least see a f
obama leaves office. this is the time to deal with this issue. we've been kicking it down the road ten years. we promised the nation in 2011 under the budget deal with the sequesters we would not let this get away from us. we shouldn't this time. for mr. obama to suggest i've cut a trillion in spending because he saved money on the wars in afghanistan is gimmicks. they a work. >> i have to be honest, it's both sides. it strikes me these lawmakers on either side don't have a real fix to...
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every time bainner and obama gets close to a deal, obama moves the goalpost back. >> because he's playing hardball. he's going, republicans, i don't care about that, i get that for free. he's kind of the guy that came to play and staunch for his side. >> the american people, when you look at the policy, they think it's president obama who is willing to compromise. >> because he's able to fit it in. because he hasn't conceded anything. >> and who are the obstructionists? who is afraid to move? it's my ideology, i can't negotiate. and even if we go off the cliff we endanger the whole economy. >> again, the idea of add hearing to a principle sadly in this world is seen as extremist, which is trying to limit government and cutting taxes. what obama has been able to do is shift the argument from cutting and spending to now spending and borrowing. cutting is even part of it. >> we have to leave it there. coming up, it's the day after christmas. you know what that means? all the bad kids going bad. [laughter] >> let's tell you what the finalist got from santa. and this woman said she was fired f
every time bainner and obama gets close to a deal, obama moves the goalpost back. >> because he's playing hardball. he's going, republicans, i don't care about that, i get that for free. he's kind of the guy that came to play and staunch for his side. >> the american people, when you look at the policy, they think it's president obama who is willing to compromise. >> because he's able to fit it in. because he hasn't conceded anything. >> and who are the obstructionists?...
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in separate calls with president obama. so president obama has been on the phone here at the white house with the democratic leaders over in capitol hill, and discussed this deal with them, and both of the top democrats in congress have agreed to the terms of this deal so it looked like they have an agreement to proceed and we have something that congress, boat houses of congress can move forward with if biden doesn't get too much resistance tonight and speaker boehner agrees to put it on the floor in the coming days. >> let's bring in a democratic senator, jeff merkley of oregon is joining us. you're getting ready to go into this democratic caucus meeting with the vice president, joe biden. what are you hearing right now? are you on board? >> we haven't heard the detail said, but there's three main things we want to nail down. first is fairness to people who versus those who are best off in society. the second is are we looking down the road to another fiscal cliff, such as sequestering or the dent ceiling kicking in a few
in separate calls with president obama. so president obama has been on the phone here at the white house with the democratic leaders over in capitol hill, and discussed this deal with them, and both of the top democrats in congress have agreed to the terms of this deal so it looked like they have an agreement to proceed and we have something that congress, boat houses of congress can move forward with if biden doesn't get too much resistance tonight and speaker boehner agrees to put it on the...
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every time boehner an obama get close to a deal, president obama moves the goalpost back. >> kimberly: he is playing hard ball. this is the problem. he is going hmm to you, republicans. i don't care about that. that is nothing. i get that for free. he is the guy changing the play for his side. what about the right? >> juan: the american people. look at the poll, they think president obama is willing to compromise. >> andrea: which is ironic. [ overtalk ] >> juan: who are the obstructionists? it's my ideology, i can't negotiate. even if we go off the cliff, endanger the whole economy. >> greg: here is thing. the idea of adhering to a principle in this world is seen as extremism, trying to limit government and cutting taxes. what obama is able to do is shift the argument from cutting and spending to now spending and borrowing. cutting is part of it. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, the day after christmas. you know what that means? all the bad gifts are going back. tell you what the five of us got from san. the plus, this woman says she was fired from her job for from being too sexy.
every time boehner an obama get close to a deal, president obama moves the goalpost back. >> kimberly: he is playing hard ball. this is the problem. he is going hmm to you, republicans. i don't care about that. that is nothing. i get that for free. he is the guy changing the play for his side. what about the right? >> juan: the american people. look at the poll, they think president obama is willing to compromise. >> andrea: which is ironic. [ overtalk ] >> juan: who are...
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thanks to obama care. five new taxes due to obama care will start going into effect. they impact everything from healthcare costs to the cost of medical devices. the congressional budget office says americans will end up paying $1 million. the deadly attack in benghazi was tearrism. cia and other government agencies that made changes to the talking points on the attack not the white house. following the attack u.n. ambassador susan rice says they used the talking points may have been a spontaneous protest that got out of hand. >>> netflix users can now share every movie they have err watched with facebook plans. congress passed a bill allowing netflix and other video streaming sites to share viewing history. users will have the opportunity to opt in or out of the social sharing feature. >>> colorado had the first recreational pot club. months after it became legal private members only clubs popped up all over the state. it prohibits public smoke sgug include private clubs. they have an admission fee of $30
thanks to obama care. five new taxes due to obama care will start going into effect. they impact everything from healthcare costs to the cost of medical devices. the congressional budget office says americans will end up paying $1 million. the deadly attack in benghazi was tearrism. cia and other government agencies that made changes to the talking points on the attack not the white house. following the attack u.n. ambassador susan rice says they used the talking points may have been a...
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end to the brinksmanship in the deal and now a two-year end and now no deal and democrats say obama just defacto negotiated and the republicans know it and we have a crisis on the hands a month from now. >> well, we will have another crisis on the hands a month from now and back here staying up in the capitol late trying to figure out what the deal is. the president said today that if it comes down to that, it's not just spending cuts but there will be revenue in there, as well. but, you know, what's the leverage then? there's an interesting question. so, it will be deja vu all over again to quote a recent speech i heard. we have to see. >> michael, i see on november 6th, 234 republicans were elected. only 15 of them from congressional districts obama won. in 2014, 14 senators will be -- will go up for re-election. 13 of them will stay and -- 12 of them in states obama did not win and like we have 2 different parallel sort of universes trying to talk to each other and republicans don't really need and are not incented to work with obama because they're coming from constituency that
end to the brinksmanship in the deal and now a two-year end and now no deal and democrats say obama just defacto negotiated and the republicans know it and we have a crisis on the hands a month from now. >> well, we will have another crisis on the hands a month from now and back here staying up in the capitol late trying to figure out what the deal is. the president said today that if it comes down to that, it's not just spending cuts but there will be revenue in there, as well. but, you...
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nobody trusts the cuts to be real the democrats can talk about cuts all they want but every single deal that's ever been cut going back to reagan with tip o'neill has ended up with higher taxes and then ever more higher spending nobody believes if it to cuts already i mean president obama has done significant cuts scaling the guy we're spending look at the baseline of two thousand and eight i mean we had a nine hundred billion dollars stimulus that was supposed to be a one off that's a now that's a permanent part of your baseline. i mean let's go back to the two thousand and nine budget and we haven't and the simplest funds have pretty much run out at this point there's no stimulus yet they knew that we were spending sam if we went back to two thousand and nine spending your deficit would disappear but ok and if we went to seventy percent tax rates where they were under republican presidents like would now be ok then but the wealthy never really cares what the wealthy never do in years until exactly the effective raise significant revenue which we have a revenue problem not a spending p
nobody trusts the cuts to be real the democrats can talk about cuts all they want but every single deal that's ever been cut going back to reagan with tip o'neill has ended up with higher taxes and then ever more higher spending nobody believes if it to cuts already i mean president obama has done significant cuts scaling the guy we're spending look at the baseline of two thousand and eight i mean we had a nine hundred billion dollars stimulus that was supposed to be a one off that's a now...
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president obama says $250,000 -- maybe i think $350,000 is the line, maybe someone else $150,000 -- we can meet somewhere and cut down -- cut the road somewhere in the middle. and save this country from the uncertainty, the uncertainty that plagues us right now. in the olden days, a long time ago, i was a stockbroker. i was an economics major and a stockbroker on wall street. the thing wall street and investors cannot take is uncertainty. if they no taxes are going up, they will be figure things. if they no taxes are going down, they will figure things. if they now taxes are staying the same, they will figure it out. right now it they are frozen -- they do not know. families are also in many ways frozen. they do not know whether they have to budget so that they will have $2,000 less next year. they do not know whether it will be $4,000. they do not now. the uncertainty is the fault of leaders who cannot get together. i think it is critical that we get a deal. i hope in the next couple of hours. to me -- somebody asked me, what is the difference if you get it now or five days from now?
president obama says $250,000 -- maybe i think $350,000 is the line, maybe someone else $150,000 -- we can meet somewhere and cut down -- cut the road somewhere in the middle. and save this country from the uncertainty, the uncertainty that plagues us right now. in the olden days, a long time ago, i was a stockbroker. i was an economics major and a stockbroker on wall street. the thing wall street and investors cannot take is uncertainty. if they no taxes are going up, they will be figure...